WTF do americans have against obama?

Top poster Posts: 2593 Join date: 2011-11-09

I'm not saying opinions are wrong but I honestly would like it if someone cold explain because I don't watch the news, I don't live in America so I don't know but he seems like a sound fella xD
I wouldn't be asking but America is kinda the leader of the world so its good to know and I think most of you are american.
So PLEASE can you jst say why yo dislike him or even why you like him?!

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America has always taken pride in its free market capitalist economy. Obama is turning it into a socialist one, little by little. Raising taxes on the job creators. Spending money we don't have. Raising the debt ceiling. Putting the country in more debt to spend the money on things to "help" the economy. By help I mean the government take it over. He's a socialist. This is a capitalist country. We don't want socialism here. Supporting the EPA, which is ruining the coal mining industry, the very thing that drives the entire economy of my state, by forcing them to use "clean coal" and putting all these regulations on coal mining to force them to spend more money. Signing a bill that gives the military to arrest anyone they believe a potential terrorist without a trial, thus giving them the authority to arrest any arab they see in the country if they say they believe them to be a terrorist, and the person not being given a trial. Making a law that requires religious institutions such as hospitals and private schools to pay for contraception and abortion, which goes against their religious beliefs. Which also is a direct violation of the first amendment, which states that congress shall make no law violating freedom of religion.

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Brianman wrote:

America has always taken pride in its free market capitalist economy. Obama is turning it into a socialist one, little by little. Raising taxes on the job creators. Spending money we don't have. Raising the debt ceiling. Putting the country in more debt to spend the money on things to "help" the economy. By help I mean the government take it over. He's a socialist. This is a capitalist country. We don't want socialism here. Supporting the EPA, which is ruining the coal mining industry, the very thing that drives the entire economy of my state, by forcing them to use "clean coal" and putting all these regulations on coal mining to force them to spend more money. Signing a bill that gives the military to arrest anyone they believe a potential terrorist without a trial, thus giving them the authority to arrest any arab they see in the country if they say they believe them to be a terrorist, and the person not being given a trial. Making a law that requires religious institutions such as hospitals and private schools to pay for contraception and abortion, which goes against their religious beliefs. Which also is a direct violation of the first amendment, which states that congress shall make no law violating freedom of religion.

Eh you lost me at market capitalist. Baby steps baby steps ( <- mppet movie quote did you see it?) lol i feel like such an airhead Razz

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In_love_with_love wrote:

Brianman wrote:

America has always taken pride in its free market capitalist economy. Obama is turning it into a socialist one, little by little. Raising taxes on the job creators. Spending money we don't have. Raising the debt ceiling. Putting the country in more debt to spend the money on things to "help" the economy. By help I mean the government take it over. He's a socialist. This is a capitalist country. We don't want socialism here. Supporting the EPA, which is ruining the coal mining industry, the very thing that drives the entire economy of my state, by forcing them to use "clean coal" and putting all these regulations on coal mining to force them to spend more money. Signing a bill that gives the military to arrest anyone they believe a potential terrorist without a trial, thus giving them the authority to arrest any arab they see in the country if they say they believe them to be a terrorist, and the person not being given a trial. Making a law that requires religious institutions such as hospitals and private schools to pay for contraception and abortion, which goes against their religious beliefs. Which also is a direct violation of the first amendment, which states that congress shall make no law violating freedom of religion.

Eh you lost me at market capitalist. Baby steps baby steps ( <- mppet movie quote did you see it?) lol i feel like such an airhead Razz

It's really a lot simpler than it seems

Capitalism-

(economics, uncountable) a socio-economic system based on the abstraction of resources into the form of privately-owned capital, with economic decisions made largely through the operation of an unregulated market.

Socialism-

Any of various economic and political philosophies that support
social equality, collective decision-making, distribution of income
based on contribution and public ownership of productive capital and
natural resources, as advocated by socialists.

Basically, capitalism is where a country's citizens own and operate the business themselves. The government has no control. Socialism is where the government controls business more. Communism is where business is completely and totally operated by the government.

Capitalism is the best kind of economy because the people make it work themselves, without having to rely on the government. The economy may get bad. Businesses will fall, but things always work themselves out over time.
The problem with socialism is, the more the government controls business, the harder things become on private business. Eventually, the only way for a business to work is to be run by the government.

The problem with communism is, no one can ever make it anywhere in life unless they are the government

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THAT SOUNDS VERY COMPLEX.

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HellYeahHayley wrote:

THAT SOUNDS VERY COMPLEX.

I'm trying to think of the simplest way to put it. It used to be very simple to me too, but this economics class I'm taking I guess is starting to make things more complex to me as well.

Ok, here's an old analogy that explains it

Communism-you have two cows and the government takes both cows and gives you part of the milk.

Socialism-you have two cows and the government takes one of the cows and gives it to your neighbor.

Capitalism-you have two cows, you sell one and you buy a bull!

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i understand ( i didn't even need the cow thing so I think I deserve gold star!)

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There's also

Fascism-you have two cows and the government takes both cows and sells you the milk.

Nazism-you have two cows and the government takes both cows and shoots you.

Bureaucracy-you have two cows, the government takes both cows, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain.

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Brianman wrote:

There's also

Fascism-you have two cows and the government takes both cows and sells you the milk.

Nazism-you have two cows and the government takes both cows and shoots you.

Bureaucracy-you have two cows, the government takes both cows, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain.

Nazism doesn't sound too good. Razz

I feel stupid when I discuss politics and stuff because I don't understand it. AT ALL. I understand the way you put it, but otherwise, I'm clueless xD

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To be honest cow metephors are confusing! I got the gist of some of that though! Thanks!

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I think I'm just going to be a independent....

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EzzieTheExcellent wrote:

Brianman wrote:

There's also

Fascism-you have two cows and the government takes both cows and sells you the milk.

Nazism-you have two cows and the government takes both cows and shoots you.

Bureaucracy-you have two cows, the government takes both cows, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain.

Nazism doesn't sound too good. Razz

I feel stupid when I discuss politics and stuff because I don't understand it. AT ALL. I understand the way you put it, but otherwise, I'm clueless xD

There's a lot of stuff that's really confusing. To me as well. When I watch the news and listen to them argue and debate I have hard time understanding a lot of it.

I try not to base my political views on the news or what the politicians. I try to base it off what I know about the founding fathers and the constitution, something I do understand, and whether or not what the politicians are doing is constitutional.

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Brianman wrote:

EzzieTheExcellent wrote:

Brianman wrote:

There's also

Fascism-you have two cows and the government takes both cows and sells you the milk.

Nazism-you have two cows and the government takes both cows and shoots you.

Bureaucracy-you have two cows, the government takes both cows, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain.

Nazism doesn't sound too good. Razz

I feel stupid when I discuss politics and stuff because I don't understand it. AT ALL. I understand the way you put it, but otherwise, I'm clueless xD

There's a lot of stuff that's really confusing. To me as well. When I watch the news and listen to them argue and debate I have hard time understanding a lot of it.

I try not to base my political views on the news or what the politicians. I try to base it off what I know about the founding fathers and the constitution, something I do understand, and whether or not what the politicians are doing is constitutional.

ok so it's not just me who doesn't understand whew

lol

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So does that help you understand why I don't like Obama?

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